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Roland COSM (VG-8, GP-100, VS-880, BOSS GT-5)

Boss GT-5 Guitar Effects Processor/Preamp. $995. Multifx floor unit. Preamp, 28 fx, COSM amp modelling, expression pedal. Guitar Player Jan 1998.

Roland GP-100 guitar preamp/processor. $995. COSM amp emulation. Foot controller $445.

VG-8 Guitar system. $2495. COSM amp emul technology. emulates guitars, pickups, amps, speakers, and mics. No triggering or tracking involved; uses guitar string as the sound source. Expression pedal $90.

Article: Roland gear and Amp Tone - title: Getting Great Guitar Tone, by Peter Swiadon

Official VG-88 page

harmony central, fx user comments - has info on the following:

FC-200 MIDI Foot Controller - user comments
GP-100 - user comments - net resources
GP-16 - user comments
GP-8 - user comments
GR-09 Guitar Synthesizer - user comments
GR-1 Guitar Synthesizer - user comments
GR-30 Guitar Synthesizer - user comments - net resources
GS-6 - user comments
VG-8 - user comments - net resources
VS-880 Digital Studio Workstation - user comments

BOSS GT-5 guitar effects processor - user comments

Roland COSM amp modelling technology - excerpts:

The GP-100 uses Roland's new proprietary Composite Object Sound Modeling (COSM) technology to offer unprecedented versatility including amplifier modeling, speaker configuration, mic modeling and more. Fantastic effects like intelligent pitch shifting and ring modulation are available with the built-in multi-effects processor. COSM technology provides for outstanding "vintage" tube amplifier emulation, speaker configuration and mic placement. Onboard digital effects.

The Roland VG-8 is a breakthrough guitar processor that uses advanced modeling technology to emulate the most popular guitars and amplifiers in music history, as well as produce some unique new sounds of its own. Self-contained guitar processing/modeling system which recreates a wide variety of guitar, amp, speaker cabinet and microphone sounds using a standard electric guitar equipped with a GK-2A or compatible pickup. Using Roland's COSM technology, the VG-8 combines multiple "sound objects," like a Les Paul guitar body, a double-coil pickup and a vintage tweed amplifier to create a perfect reproduction of these components that can be played from any steel-stringed guitar with a Roland GK-2A pickup. The VG-8 also has a built-in polyphonic pitch shifter for creating 12-string guitars and open tunings as well as a complete digital effects processor and parametric EQ. VGM (Variable Guitar Modeling) provides multiple sound object models including guitars, pickups, amps, cabinets, microphones and even mic placement. No tracking delay through the GK-2A pickup, the VG-8 converts the actual waveform produced by each string into a totally new sound in realtime. High speed digital effects. Includes acoustic and hollow-body models, pickup variations, amp variations, and more.

GP-100 picture:

COSM review in the VS880 FAQ:

OPINIONS:

"BTW, am I the only one who thinks the COSM guitar distortion is a stinker? My SE-70 kicks it in the rump!" [Erica Cassetti - Jan '97]

"I'd fiddle with it some more. "Good" fx are a matter of taste, but I've used the COSM simulators to great effect (no pun intended)." [Doug - Jan '97]

"I think it's great. I haven't been able to get a Hetfieldish sound out of it yet, but I can get some pretty warm tube sounds. Here's a magic trick I use. Run COSM patch of choice with the "speaker" setting set to OFF, run it out of the AUX to a real tube amp set loud and clean, mike the amp and bring it back into the VS. Wakes the neighbors, but it is DAMN flexible. (I insert into the effects loop for Z-matching) One reason I love the VS8F1 guitar sims is that I can just set it to any old patch and jam, recording down the dry signal. Later, I can go and tweak the patch to just what the mix needs, (including using the above magic trick). Get it right, bounce it down, track move the bounce to a virtual track of the original dry recording... turn off the patch. This gets me lots of mix down power, and I don't have to waste time fiddling with my tone at record time." [Brian Badger - Jan '97]

"Am I the only one who thinks that the COSM amp simulation on the internal effects card is so good it makes me want to shout for joy?" [Paul Shields - Jan '97]

"I agree, the COSM amp simulation is so DARN GOOD...... Heres how I use it, Guitar, ART tube pre, ART levelar, stock patch 57 matchlead. I have had GREAT results tracking hard left&right using a splitter going to two different COSM patches BIG sound." [Gary Shaw - Jan '97]

"As for the amp sims, they sound OK, but not nearly as good as a miked tube amp. Close, but no cigar. I've been playing for over fourteen years and the amp sims in the VS can kill my inspiration. I use Marshalls and play through a 50 Watt master volume, preamp / master on 8 or 10, and no amp sim in the world, including the VS, can come even remotely close to sounding as good. The only amp sim worth having, I think, is the Sans Amp. It's the best I've heard." [George Carden - Feb '97]

"Just to be the "devil's advocate".... I have been playing for 35 years on the guitar, and, the COSM amps in the VS make me sound the best I have ever sounded. I have had Boogies, Soldanos, old this, tube that.....etc. The VS makes me feel like I own a lot of very cool sounding amps! Strictly my own opinion, of course.... " [R. Francis - Feb '97]


David Coffin wrote:

>I own the Ampulator and VG-8 and am another specialist in quiet cranked-tube-amp devices.

>I've also got, and love, a Roland VG-8, which is the most astounding guitar toy of the decade, by far, IMHO...but it can't quite do the Mesa thing. Touch sensitive, to be sure, but the sense of headroom just isn't there. Almost everything else I've ever dreamed of is, tho: an infinite variety of juicy and mind-boggling NEW guitar sounds, every bit as interesting as the tube thing (assuming that's already ALMOST in the bag!)

DejaNews query: COSM

Messages 1-52 of exactly 52 matches for search COSM:

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   1. 98/10/12 019 Re: Question for Marshall Ex alt.guitar            Chip of Known S
   2. 98/01/15 019 Re: Best Guitar Processor Un alt.guitar            Dpcoffin       
   3. 98/01/15 019 Re: Best Guitar Processor Un alt.guitar            Dpcoffin       
   4. 98/07/30 018 Re: Boss gx-700 vs. Boss GT- alt.guitar.amps       Dpcoffin       
   5. 98/06/24 018 Re: Would you recommend to b alt.guitar            Dpcoffin       
   6. 98/06/08 018 Re: preamp that sounds most  alt.guitar.amps       Richard E. John
   7. 98/01/13 018 Re: Boss GT 5 for distortion alt.guitar            Roger D. Placer
   8. 98/01/10 018 Re: Boss Gt-5 (GX-700) or Di alt.guitar            Dpcoffin       
   9. 97/11/14 018 FS: ROLAND GP-100 Guitar Pre alt.guitar.amps       S_Wenzel       
  10. 97/11/14 018 FS: ROLAND GP-100 Guitar Pre alt.guitar            S_Wenzel       
  11. 98/06/12 017 Re: preamp that sounds most  alt.guitar.amps       Mark T. Van Dit
  12. 97/12/15 017 FS: Roland GP-100 Preamp/ FX alt.guitar            S_Wenzel       
  13. 97/12/15 017 FS: Roland GP-100 Preamp/FX  alt.guitar.amps       S_Wenzel       
  14. 97/12/07 017 Re: gx700                    alt.guitar.amps       Clarke Robertso
  15. 97/12/05 017 Boss Gx-700                  alt.guitar            ace            
  16. 97/12/05 017 gx700                        alt.guitar            ace            
  17. 97/12/05 017 Boss Gx-700                  alt.guitar.amps       ace            
  18. 97/12/05 017 gx700                        alt.guitar.amps       ace            
  19. 98/07/28 016 Re: Boss ME30 or Digitech RP alt.guitar.effects    di             
  20. 98/07/12 016 boycott "new" vg-8           alt.guitar            gittee         
  21. 98/01/29 016 Re: THE SKY IS FALLING...or. alt.guitar.amps       Andrew P. Mullh
  22. 98/01/24 016 Re: THE SKY IS FALLING...or. alt.guitar.amps       Aaron Turner   
  23. 97/12/13 016 Re: gx700                    alt.guitar.amps       David Buckley  
  24. 97/07/17 016 F.S. Boss SX-700 Effects Pro rec.music.makers.guit Carl Fiadino   
  25. 97/03/27 016 Roland GP-100                alt.guitar            Greg Jones     
  26. 98/08/20 015 Re: DUMBLE SCHEMATICS        alt.guitar.amps       steve_2000     
  27. 98/08/20 015 Re: DUMBLE SCHEMATICS        alt.guitar.amps       Gene Miller    
  28. 98/03/09 015 Standardized Sound Modeling? alt.guitar            Frank D. Greco 
  29. 97/09/01 015 Re: Direct recording         alt.guitar            Bored Spice    
  30. 97/06/23 015 Re: boss gx-700              alt.guitar            Karl BÝrge Stee
  31. 97/01/28 015 Boss GT-5                    alt.guitar.amps       Sam Newton     
  32. 97/01/28 015 Re: Boss GT-5                alt.guitar.amps       Dpcoffin       
  33. 97/06/06 014 Re: Blues tone.              alt.guitar            C or G Jordan  
  34. 97/03/27 014 Re: Roland GP-100            alt.guitar            C. F. Cohen    
  35. 97/03/07 014 Re: Again: Boss GT-5 vs Digi alt.guitar            Sam Chambers   
  36. 96/11/05 014 Re: BOSS GT-5 - Any info / o alt.guitar.amps       Joe Breher     
  37. 96/10/18 014 Re: Line6 AxSys 2x12 amp!!!  alt.guitar.amps       gary watts     
  38. 96/10/14 014 Re: Roland VG-8 Questions    rec.music.makers      Frank D. Greco 
  39. 97/07/08 013 Seamles patch changes(was Di alt.guitar            Oscar  Grouch  
  40. 97/02/01 013 Re: Boss GT-5                alt.guitar.amps       Joel Wachbrit  
  41. 96/11/14 013 Re: Roland Bleuscube experie alt.guitar            John Cefaloni  
  42. 96/11/14 013 Re: Roland Bleuscube experie alt.guitar            Dave Shapiro   
  43. 96/11/14 013 Antw: Re: Roland Bleuscube e alt.guitar            strat          
  44. 96/11/13 013 Re: Roland Bleuscube experie alt.guitar            David Covell   
  45. 96/09/27 013 Re: Anyone heard Roland amp? alt.guitar.amps       Daddy-O        
  46. 96/04/15 013 Re: Does Roland's guitar MID rec.music.makers.guit Gareth Bull    
  47. 96/04/11 013 Re: Does Roland's guitar MID rec.music.makers.guit toneboy        
  48. 96/12/17 012 Re: Boss GT-5 vs GX700 - ple alt.guitar            Sandford Selzni
  49. 96/12/17 012 Re: Please help - Best direc alt.guitar            Richard E. John
  50. 96/11/14 012 Re: Rvw of Power Brake, #2/2 alt.guitar.amps       Michael      
  51. 96/11/14 012 Re: Rvw of Power Brake, #2/2 alt.guitar            J.R. Elswick   
  52. 95/09/22 012 Re: GSP2101 vs. GP100        rec.music.makers.guit Mike Mori      


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